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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Shred » Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:12 pm

You're missing the track record of the dictatorship in Russia.
Any attempt to appease it and they'll just dig in, rebuild the Russian military and attack again and more innocent people will die.

If MS-13 came onto your property, raped and murdered some of your family, and you killed some of them, would you start negotiating because you hadn't killed all of them? No, you'd keep fighting unless they killed you.

You cannot negotiate with those who want you dead.

Putin already showed he wants to overthrow the elected Ukrainian government, steal Kyiv and steal Ukraine's land and resources.

No negotiation, drive him out of every part of it.
Destroy his logistics, his warehouses, starve his soldiers, then with a composite force with mine clearing vehicles, infantry fighting vehicles, tanks, and infantry backed up by artillery, guided rockets and covered by anti aircraft systems, push forward. Liberate Donbas.
Then destroy the illegal twin bridges from Russia to Crimea in the Kerch strait and push into Crimea liberating Crimea by the same method.
Destroying logistics, warehouses and starving the Russian army into defeat.

Starving it of ammunition, starving it of fuel, and starving it of food.

It can be done, but the Putin loving RINO Trump cult stopped aid to Ukraine last year dragging out the war, killing thousands and made matters worse.

A pox on all of them.
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Evil » Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:27 pm

pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:46 pm
Evil wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:16 am
pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:18 am
Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:41 am
Negotiate what?
If armed thugs started occupying your land, and you killed one of them, would you negotiate with the rest for them to stay (dig in and attack you again)?

Invaders OUT.
Negotiate a settlement acceptable to both parties. One thing that would help would be Ukraine actually not getting their ass whipped.
Why would you want to reward Russian aggression? Do we just keep giving the parts of any country they decide they want?
Reward them? I said "acceptable to both parties"

The fact is, Ukraine has is not defeating Russia and never will. And no one has even talked about trying to negotiate peace. It's kill kill kill
The fact is that "acceptable" to Putin means he gets parts of Ukraine. That's what you're proposing.

They have negotiated, they meet in Paris, and Zelensky won't give up parts of his country to Putin.
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by nolaxride » Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:29 pm

pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:48 am
Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:38 am
pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:18 am
Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:41 am
Negotiate what?
If armed thugs started occupying your land, and you killed one of them, would you negotiate with the rest for them to stay (dig in and attack you again)?

Invaders OUT.
Negotiate a settlement acceptable to both parties. One thing that would help would be Ukraine actually not getting their ass whipped.
There was a settlement before Putin started his attacks in 2014, the Budapest Memorandum, the Russia Ukraine Friendship Treaty and the Kharkiv Pact.

Putin tore it all up and started all this.

It's not possible to negotiate with him, therefore it's necessary to resist him with sufficient force that his military are kicked out.

That means arming Ukraine to the teeth, something the Commie loving Trump cult don't want to do.
Who's idea was it to disarm Ukraine and trust Putin?
Everyone who thought Ukraine having nukes was a bad idea.
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by pete » Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:32 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:29 pm
pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:48 am
Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:38 am
pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:18 am
Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:41 am
Negotiate what?
If armed thugs started occupying your land, and you killed one of them, would you negotiate with the rest for them to stay (dig in and attack you again)?

Invaders OUT.
Negotiate a settlement acceptable to both parties. One thing that would help would be Ukraine actually not getting their ass whipped.
There was a settlement before Putin started his attacks in 2014, the Budapest Memorandum, the Russia Ukraine Friendship Treaty and the Kharkiv Pact.

Putin tore it all up and started all this.

It's not possible to negotiate with him, therefore it's necessary to resist him with sufficient force that his military are kicked out.

That means arming Ukraine to the teeth, something the Commie loving Trump cult don't want to do.
Who's idea was it to disarm Ukraine and trust Putin?
Everyone who thought Ukraine having nukes was a bad idea.
Didn't age well worth a chit
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Evil » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:03 pm

pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:32 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:29 pm
pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:48 am
Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:38 am
pete wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:18 am
Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:41 am
Negotiate what?
If armed thugs started occupying your land, and you killed one of them, would you negotiate with the rest for them to stay (dig in and attack you again)?

Invaders OUT.
Negotiate a settlement acceptable to both parties. One thing that would help would be Ukraine actually not getting their ass whipped.
There was a settlement before Putin started his attacks in 2014, the Budapest Memorandum, the Russia Ukraine Friendship Treaty and the Kharkiv Pact.

Putin tore it all up and started all this.

It's not possible to negotiate with him, therefore it's necessary to resist him with sufficient force that his military are kicked out.

That means arming Ukraine to the teeth, something the Commie loving Trump cult don't want to do.
Who's idea was it to disarm Ukraine and trust Putin?
Everyone who thought Ukraine having nukes was a bad idea.
Didn't age well worth a chit
So it's everyone's fault that thought Putin would hold up his side of the Budapest memorandum rather than Putin's?
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Shred » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:09 pm

To get back on topic I've started a new thread.

This thread is about Columbia students opposing genocide in Gaza allegedly being "pro Hamas".

I oppose Hamas with every fibre of my being, but I also oppose genocide in Gaza and the West Bank.
You cannot murder civilians and hope for peace by doing so.

Kill the leaders of Hamas in exile instead.

Gaza and the West Bank belong to the Palestinians.
It's in the Oslo accords.

End the genocide.
End the illegal occupations of Gaza and the West Bank.

And end anti Semitism.
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Chester Cheesewright » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:28 pm

Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:09 pm
To get back on topic I've started a new thread.

This thread is about Columbia students opposing genocide in Gaza allegedly being "pro Hamas".

I oppose Hamas with every fibre of my being, but I also oppose genocide in Gaza and the West Bank.
You cannot murder civilians and hope for peace by doing so.

Kill the leaders of Hamas in exile instead.

Gaza and the West Bank belong to the Palestinians.
It's in the Oslo accords.

End the genocide.
End the illegal occupations of Gaza and the West Bank.

And end anti Semitism.
► anti Semitism is a christian phenomonon

It does not exist in Palestine

You usually learn well, but your sources for I/P, whatever they are, let you down bigtime
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Chester Cheesewright » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:52 pm

Shred wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:09 pm
To get back on topic I've started a new thread.

This thread is about Columbia students opposing genocide in Gaza allegedly being "pro Hamas".

I oppose Hamas with every fibre of my being, but I also oppose genocide in Gaza and the West Bank.
You cannot murder civilians and hope for peace by doing so.

Kill the leaders of Hamas in exile instead.

Gaza and the West Bank belong to the Palestinians.
It's in the Oslo accords.

End the genocide.
End the illegal occupations of Gaza and the West Bank.

And end anti Semitism.
► You reckon if the Palestinians weren't "anti-Semitic," the jews wouldn't be robbing and killing them?

You know, you're just what the Prime Minister ordered. Did anyone ever tell you?
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Chester Cheesewright » Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:37 pm

psk836 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:35 am
It is no longer just a protest when the PRO-HAMAS protesters and faculty threaten, harass and injure people for being Jewish.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/us-news/c ... -of-chaos/

‘We are Hamas!’

On Thursday, the protesters repeated various chants and slogans, including an unashamed, blatant claim that these protesters are members of Hamas, the group which brutally murdered civilians, raped Israeli women, and took hundreds of hostages during the unprecedented Oct. 7 attack.

“We are Hamas!” one aggressive protester was seen shouting.

“Hamas make us proud, kill another soldier now,” others chanted."

"One Jewish Columbia University student was repeatedly kicked in the stomach during the protests, and an agitator reportedly told her to “kill yourself.”'

► Israel is to blame for Jewish victims around the world
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Re: Pro-Hamas Columbia Faculty Form Wall To Block Media Access To CHAZ-Style Tent City

Post by Shred » Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:28 am

Likud used Hamas to turn Gaza into a hell hole to prevent the West Bank being given to the Palestinians. You support Hamas Chester.

You played your part in preventing peace, coexistence and a viable Palestinian state. You played into Netanyahu's hands and now the Palestinians have nothing, again.
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