Hamas Admits It Fudged Gaza Casualty Statistics

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He recruited a division for Hitler, the 13th Handschar (1st Croatian) division of the SS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waff ... _Croatian)
He had knowledge of the holocaust.

After WW2 he tried to continue what Hitler had started and it blew up in the faces of the Arabs destroying any hope of Palestinian statehood in that era and giving Begin an excuse to carry out genocidal slaughter.

[Chester Cheesewright]

He recruited a division for Hitler, the 13th Handschar (1st Croatian) division of the SS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waff ... _Croatian)
He had knowledge of the holocaust.

After WW2 he tried to continue what Hitler had started and it blew up in the faces of the Arabs destroying any hope of Palestinian statehood in that era and giving Begin an excuse to carry out genocidal slaughter.

► Begin needed an excuse?

Looks to me like the SOB did what he wanted to who ever he wanted

[Chester Cheesewright]

He recruited a division for Hitler, the 13th Handschar (1st Croatian) division of the SS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waff ... _Croatian)
He had knowledge of the holocaust.

After WW2 he tried to continue what Hitler had started and it blew up in the faces of the Arabs destroying any hope of Palestinian statehood in that era and giving Begin an excuse to carry out genocidal slaughter.

► I Don’t know why we’re discussing this

The point is the Jews began emigrating to Palestine 100-120 years ago and starting chit as soon as they arrived

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Irgun were not formed until 1931.
Attacks by the Arabs pre dated Irgun.
There was peace until Amin Al Husseini's followers started attacking.

Irgun split from the Haganah as a response.
And between 1944 and 1945 the Haganah helped the British Army fight Irgun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saison

[Chester Cheesewright]

"The Jews The Jews The Jews!"

F*** off Chester.

This is what your ideology did.

► Well, if the Jews want to dress their little boys up in those pretty uniforms, arm them and send them out to rob and kill, then they can die, too

That’s how war is played.

[Chester Cheesewright]

Irgun were not formed until 1931.
Attacks by the Arabs pre dated Irgun.
There was peace until Amin Al Husseini's followers started attacking.

Irgun split from the Haganah as a response.
And between 1944 and 1945 the Haganah helped the British Army fight Irgun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saison

► Man, you’re on a nit-picking mission today, aren’t you

And wrong as well

[Chester Cheesewright]

England is not a sovereign country.
England is a Kingdom of the UK in the same way that Texas is a state in the USA.

T E Lawrence gave assurances to the Arabs.
Balfour went behind his back.
T E Lawrence was killed in a motorcycle accident.

Then your hero Adolf started kicking off about Jews, and came to power in 1933.

► The point, that you seem quite unaware of, is the modern state of Israel is a hostile conquest

And that conquest is unique for its mass expulsions of the native population. Ninety percent of the population was expelled under force of arms

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The modern state of Israel is a product of wars.
In 1948, the moment it declared independence, it was attacked from three sides.

If it had not been attacked, there would have been a much smaller state, shared ownership of Jerusalem, Menachem Begin's mob would have been destroyed.
AND a larger sovereign Palestinian state would exist in parallel with Israel.

BOTH sides have committed atrocities against each other.
No doubt about that.
But you trying to sanitise Amin Al Husseini and his mob, that doesn't cut the mustard.
Amin Al Husseini was one side of a bad coin, Menachem Begin the other.

Two thugs each with an army of followers who did everything they could to prevent peace and coexistence.

You Chester, as a follower of Amin Al Husseini's anti Semitism, are part of the problem.

[Chester Cheesewright]

The modern state of Israel is a product of wars.
In 1948, the moment it declared independence, it was attacked from three sides.

If it had not been attacked, there would have been a much smaller state, shared ownership of Jerusalem, Menachem Begin's mob would have been destroyed.
AND a larger sovereign Palestinian state would exist in parallel with Israel.

BOTH sides have committed atrocities against each other.
No doubt about that.
But you trying to sanitise Amin Al Husseini and his mob, that doesn't cut the mustard.
Amin Al Husseini was one side of a bad coin, Menachem Begin the other.

Two thugs each with an army of followers who did everything they could to prevent peace and coexistence.

You Chester, as a follower of Amin Al Husseini's anti Semitism, are part of the problem.

the moment it declared independence, it was attacked from three sides

► Obviously, you see nothing inherently wrong with declaring Palestine to be another country

And you're just tossing factoids around.

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Israel and Palestine are not the same country.
Palestine has never been a sovereign country, ever.
Israel has been a sovereign country twice.
Palestine would have been created as a sovereign country, were it not for terrorism.

Both Hamas and Likud are the latest bunch of scumbags to prevent the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian country.